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jerome
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Hello SANSUI lovers

 

I'm wondering if you can tell me which pre amplifier is the best in SANSUI range ?

Shall I look at the DEFINITION serie or at C2301 or anything else ?

 

Thanks for your help

 

Jerome

BeatleFred
Reply with quote  #2 

The hi-end C-2301 is an excellent preamp, but this model isnt seen very often for sale online. And if it was, it would not be inexpensive, as is the case with its matching amplifier, the 300 Watt B-2301 (and I know, because I own both of them). One thing to be aware of is the C-2301 doesnt have a Headphone jack, so if you like to listen to music with headphones alot, keep it in mind.

 

I think the best buy would probably be the CA-2000. The volume control on it is rock-solid, better than the CA-3000. Otherwise, the CA-3000 is a beauty, but the CA-2000 is also great and would be less expensive and easier to find, such as on Ebay. Having TWO pairs of output jacks is very convenient, especially to biamp to 2 amplifiers.

 

The C-2101 & C-2102 seem to be good, but since they were made in the 80's, they dont quite have the classic look like the 70's CA-3000 & CA-2000.

 

B/F

jerome
Reply with quote  #3 

Well thank you for the advise

 

I will prefer if there is some balanced connections, as the amplification parts of my balanced AU-X901 can be driven with XLR.

 

regards

 

Jerome

Tom Frantzen
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Hi Fred,

don't forget the slim but incredible fast CA-F1 which sounds very, very good. I own two of them (and three power amps BA-F1 for homecinema).

My opinion about the volume poti of CA-2000/3000 is another. I prefer the non-stopping turn of my CA-3000.

But you are right, a real Sansui fan has to buy at least three preamps: C-2301 (2302), CA-3000 and CA-F1 :-).

The C-2101/2102 indeed are good, but nothing one must have.

Forget about Sansui C-77, C-1000 and AX-7 (last is good as input selector, for microphone recordings, as mixer or much more, but not an audiophile pre).

Best regards

Tom Frantzen, STEREO magazine
BeatleFred
Reply with quote  #5 

Hi Tom:

 

3 BA-F1's you say, well, that must be quite a home theater you have   How is your home theater connected, does each BA-F1 drive a section of the speakers (front pair, rear pair, center?).  I can imagine the CA-F1 makes a good match with the BA-F1.  Its interesting to me that Sansui designed the CA-F1 in such a slim, rack mount enclosure. I dont recall, but did I send you the '80 review I have of the BA& CA-F1 from 'Audio' mag?  I think I did, but after a while its hard to remember.

 

I actually do have a C-1000, along with the matching B-3000 amp, and T-1000 tuner. I wasnt looking to buy them, but I got all for about $50, so I figured, why not? They are all actually decent-sounding units.

 

I think the AX-7 is a very cool device, I have three of them. I dont think it can be used as a preamp in the strict sense of the word, (for one thing it does not have a Volume control), its more like a device to enable a variety of audio equipment to be connected to it, and facilitate switching between them, for example, you could connect 3 preamps to an AX-7, and then select which of those 3 preamps you want to feed a power amp. (the 3preamps can also be the preamp section of an integrated amp or receiver if they have a switch to separate the pre-power amp sections).  I think of the AX-7 as having two sides, the passive switching on the left (no Power required) and the active switching on the right (for the guitars, mics etc..)

 

By the way, I noticed that it was YOU who wrote the review on the Infinity Omega speaker, from the magazine I recently bought on Ebay Germany.  There was a beautiful pair of hi-gloss black Renaissance 90's on E.G., and I was so tempted to buy them, but unfortunately, the shipping cost was very expensive, (also other bidders drove the price up).

 

Actually, the CA-2000 does not have a click stop volume control.  If you look at it and compare to the CA-3000, you will notice the the volume control on the CA-2K appears to be more solidly attached into the front panel, than the CA-3K, and thus it has a more "solid" feel when turning it than on the CA-3K. Even the C-2301, being the 'audiophile' quality piece that it is, doesnt have a 'super-luxury' feel to its volume control, though the illuminated numbers around it is a nice touch. I wish they wouldve made the Sansui logo on it a bit larger also and have it illuminated- that was the best logo design, as on the G series receivers

 

Regards,

 

Fred

ENOCH MUBUKA
Reply with quote  #6 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeatleFred
Hi Sansui fanatics!
I have a sansui control amplifier C-1000 and power amp. B-1000, what range of speakers is best for this equipment in terms of resistance and wattage?
 
enoch m2.
 
 
Keeper
Reply with quote  #7 

Quote:
Originally Posted by ENOCH MUBUKA
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeatleFred
Hi Sansui fanatics!
I have a sansui control amplifier C-1000 and power amp. B-1000, what range of speakers is best for this equipment in terms of resistance and wattage?
 
enoch m2.
 
 

I would recommend not using less than 8 ohms impedance. The wattage it's up to you. B-1000 deliver 75WPC

DAVID MOZINGO
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       HELLO SANSUI PEOPLE,,,ANYONE IN NEED OF A  BA-F1 POWER AMP.,, AND MATCHING CA-F1 PRE-AMP..???THEY WILL COME WITH MANUALS FOR EACH,, THESE'S ARE NOT COPYS,,,I DO NOT HAVE RACK MOUNTS FOR  GEAR,,THEY WERE CHECKED OUT BY " THE SOUNDSMITH CORP."OF NEW YORK...MR. PETER LEDERMANN BEING THE OWNER..THEY ARE BEING SOLD TOGETHER,,$650.00...THERE IS NO MAJOR MARKS ON UNITS,,I WOULD RATE THESE'S A 9/10..YOU WILL RECEIVE THE SERVICE PAPERWORK VERIFYING EACH ITEMS WAS CHECKED OUT..I HAVE SOLD MY AU-317, AMP AND C-2101 PREAMP..I STILL USE THE TU-717 SANSUI TUNER FOR NOW...THE REASON THEY ARE BEING SOLD IS ,, I HAVE PURCHASE ALL "TUBE GEAR",,,AND I WISH TO SELL TO A "SANSUI LOVER" THESE,S PIECES WILL NOT BE PLACED ON "EBAY" I WILL BE SENDING PHOTO'S ON "AUDIOGON" IN A WEEK OR LESS..THANK YOU..DAVID MOZINGO..NC,,28513..EMAIL ADDRESS IS JOENVICKY120200@AOL.COM

Keeper
Reply with quote  #9 

Don't use upper-case as it used to mean that you are shouting. Besides, more diffecult to read.

DAVID MOZINGO
Reply with quote  #10 

        HELLO SANSUI LOVERS, I POSTED A SHORT TIME AGO WHAT I WILL BE SELLING? BA-F1 AND CA-F1 IN GREAT CONDITION..CONTACT ME AT JOENVICKY120200@AOL.COM THANKS

Keeper
Reply with quote  #11 

I can see that you still use upper case. It's impolited

Joe Mozingo
Reply with quote  #12 

        Sorry  about large case "keeper"....for pic's on sansui BA-f1 & CA-f1,,for sale please email me.....JoenVicky120200@aol.com..........thanks

JOJO62AMP
Reply with quote  #13 

    Vintage Sansui,Udate along with selling power ampilifer BA-F1 & CA-F1 preamp,,very fine cond. TU-717 Sansui tuner, sorry no rack handles for units..selling price $800.00 USD. ALL 3-PIECE'S..Shipping cost not included.Due to weight of sansui gear,around 80 lbs.wish to sell in the states!please do not "reply" if not serious or feel cost is out your reach? I will submit a attachment of TU-717 to be added with pic's of power ampilifer and preamp already submitted ,,,saturday....Thanks JOE..NC,28513..EMAIL ADDRESS...JOENVICKY120200@AOL.COM

Daniel
Reply with quote  #14 
Hullo Fred

Wondering if you use your Sansui B-3000 amp, I have got one myself but the power amp has blown and you can't get the equivalent i/c to repair it hence I'm looking for a complete working unit. you can email me at ozputus@bigpond.com

Thanks
Daniel

Quote:
Originally Posted by BeatleFred

Hi Tom:
 
3 BA-F1's you say, well, that must be quite a home theater you have   How is your home theater connected, does each BA-F1 drive a section of the speakers (front pair, rear pair, center?).  I can imagine the CA-F1 makes a good match with the BA-F1.  Its interesting to me that Sansui designed the CA-F1 in such a slim, rack mount enclosure. I dont recall, but did I send you the '80 review I have of the BA& CA-F1 from 'Audio' mag?  I think I did, but after a while its hard to remember.
 
I actually do have a C-1000, along with the matching B-3000 amp, and T-1000 tuner. I wasnt looking to buy them, but I got all for about $50, so I figured, why not? They are all actually decent-sounding units.
 
I think the AX-7 is a very cool device, I have three of them. I dont think it can be used as a preamp in the strict sense of the word, (for one thing it does not have a Volume control), its more like a device to enable a variety of audio equipment to be connected to it, and facilitate switching between them, for example, you could connect 3 preamps to an AX-7, and then select which of those 3 preamps you want to feed a power amp. (the 3preamps can also be the preamp section of an integrated amp or receiver if they have a switch to separate the pre-power amp sections).  I think of the AX-7 as having two sides, the passive switching on the left (no Power required) and the active switching on the right (for the guitars, mics etc..)
 
By the way, I noticed that it was YOU who wrote the review on the Infinity Omega speaker, from the magazine I recently bought on Ebay Germany.  There was a beautiful pair of hi-gloss black Renaissance 90's on E.G., and I was so tempted to buy them, but unfortunately, the shipping cost was very expensive, (also other bidders drove the price up).
 
Actually, the CA-2000 does not have a click stop volume control.  If you look at it and compare to the CA-3000, you will notice the the volume control on the CA-2K appears to be more solidly attached into the front panel, than the CA-3K, and thus it has a more "solid" feel when turning it than on the CA-3K. Even the C-2301, being the 'audiophile' quality piece that it is, doesnt have a 'super-luxury' feel to its volume control, though the illuminated numbers around it is a nice touch. I wish they wouldve made the Sansui logo on it a bit larger also and have it illuminated- that was the best logo design, as on the G series receivers
 
Regards,
 
Fred
morals
Reply with quote  #15 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Frantzen
Hi Fred,

don't forget the slim but incredible fast CA-F1 which sounds very, very good. I own two of them (and three power amps BA-F1 for homecinema).

My opinion about the volume poti of CA-2000/3000 is another. I prefer the non-stopping turn of my CA-3000.

But you are right, a real Sansui fan has to buy at least three preamps: C-2301 (2302), CA-3000 and CA-F1 :-).

The C-2101/2102 indeed are good, but nothing one must have.

Forget about Sansui C-77, C-1000 and AX-7 (last is good as input selector, for microphone recordings, as mixer or much more, but not an audiophile pre).

Best regards

Tom Frantzen, STEREO magazine
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